Hi, just a summary of my last night's (german time) experiences: - mbone is not available at most (german) provider's - there are no tunnel providers anymore - even those who had mbone access couldn't receive the IETF stream - The oregon multicast crew took several hours to answer to a mail request (I guess they all were in Seoul), but all I received was You aren't going to be able to get multicast connectivity in a couple of hours. A full day is usually sufficient to arrange for multicast if all goes well. You'll be able to watch the archived video when we get back from IETF and have had a chance to edit the video. That's ridiculous and not a good advertising for IETF. "A full day if all goes well" is a joke. (Why does it take a day to enter a line to an mrouted ?) - Most surprisingly many, many people seem to have had problems with accessing the mcast streams, but actually nobody seems to ever have spent a minute to think about how to access mcast. I was under the impression as if I was the very first human asking for an mbone tunnel and mbone tunnels would be a brand new invention not yet available. What's the point in sending multicast video sessions if nobody cares how to receive them? Of course, sending to a multicast IP address makes live easier in the way to not need to care for the receiver's address, but how many successful receivers have there been after all? regards Hadmut