Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-06.txt> (Security Considerations for Transient Numeric Identifiers Employed in Network Protocols) to Best Current Practice

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On 13/12/20 19:47, Joe Touch wrote:


On Dec 13, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

My position is that modern practice is to design protocols that have encryption
(this is strongly encouraged by RFC 7258 and also is just what we're doing)
and this document neither (a) engages with that nor (b) provides particularly
helpful guidance for encrypted protoco

+1

I don’t like the idea of over-specification to provide partial privacy or security.

Our document says:

   1.  Clearly specify the interoperability requirements for the
       aforementioned identifiers (e.g., required properties such as
       uniqueness, along with the failure severity if such properties
       are not met).

   2.  Provide a security and privacy analysis of the aforementioned
       identifiers.

   3.  Recommend an algorithm for generating the aforementioned
       identifiers that mitigates security and privacy issues, such as
       those discussed in [I-D.irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation].


"1" asks specifications to spell out the interoperability requirements for the IDs.

"2" explicitly asks specifications to do an appropriate analysis of the security and privacy implications of the IDs.

"3" means: "based on the analysis you did in #2, recommend an algorithm that mitigates the identified issues" (i.e., "do what you need to do, in the best way you can").

I'm kind of surprised this is being contended.

Thanks,
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Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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