Hi, Is there any way you could summarize your perspective in a single email and then stop? Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Keith Moore > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:13 PM > To: John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service > > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:37 PM, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Jason's suggestion to point the FTP server at a stub with a README for > > a week seems reasonable. > > Because it is perfectly OK to break a non-interactive service with a message that > chances are good no one will ever see. But when people realize the service is > broken and turn their clients off, somebody will say “see, nobody was using this > after all!” > > It reminds me of the algorithm for determining whether someone’s a witch- > throw them into a large body of water and see if they float. > > Keith > > BTW, John, you are out of line.