Good point, that's why i followed Christian's suggestion because i'm waiting to complete the cost of the lawyer and will go to the court for what cisco did with the copyright of one of my IDs.
Khaled Omar
From: Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.
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Subject: Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.
by the way, it is not likely in your own interest to have these IDs deleted by the IETF (even if it were possible)
if you ever want to prove in court that you published your ideas in a public forum (for example if someone else
steals them or even patents them), you can point to the ID publication and the IETF Trust can provide
a declaration attesting to the fact that they were published and as to what the date of publication was
Scott
> On Oct 20, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'll follow Christian's suggestion, but I still believe it doesn't make any sense, the older contents will not disappear completely from the IETF and this is what I wanted.
>
> Anyway, I'll submit new versions with these tombstones.
>
> Good luck everyone.
>
> Khaled Omar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:31 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; IAOC Legal Committee <legal@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.
>
> Khaled,
> 1/ as Nick pointed out, it was made very clear to you that you can not withdraw the permission you gave for the IETF to publish your ID
> see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/oUwC8jVo8pI0HQ7lx734RXTAVec/
>
> 2/ it would be pointless anyway, as Ted pointed out "There are a large number of repositories which mirror the internet-drafts” that
> are not under IETF control - IDs, once published, are forever
>
> it is hard to see any reason to continue to fight about this - take the advice to publish “tombstones” that will hide all but the last version of your ID from anyone that does not know how to look for older versions
>
>
> Scott
if you ever want to prove in court that you published your ideas in a public forum (for example if someone else
steals them or even patents them), you can point to the ID publication and the IETF Trust can provide
a declaration attesting to the fact that they were published and as to what the date of publication was
Scott
> On Oct 20, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'll follow Christian's suggestion, but I still believe it doesn't make any sense, the older contents will not disappear completely from the IETF and this is what I wanted.
>
> Anyway, I'll submit new versions with these tombstones.
>
> Good luck everyone.
>
> Khaled Omar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:31 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; IAOC Legal Committee <legal@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [legal] Enough is Enough.
>
> Khaled,
> 1/ as Nick pointed out, it was made very clear to you that you can not withdraw the permission you gave for the IETF to publish your ID
> see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/oUwC8jVo8pI0HQ7lx734RXTAVec/
>
> 2/ it would be pointless anyway, as Ted pointed out "There are a large number of repositories which mirror the internet-drafts” that
> are not under IETF control - IDs, once published, are forever
>
> it is hard to see any reason to continue to fight about this - take the advice to publish “tombstones” that will hide all but the last version of your ID from anyone that does not know how to look for older versions
>
>
> Scott
