RE: Enough is Enough.

[Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

>> it is important that the IETF (through the IETF Trust) own

   the copyright in documents that are published as RFCs (other than

   Informational RFCs and RFCs that are submitted as RFC Editor

   Contributions).

 

This is about RFCs not individual submitted drafts, I still have the right as the only author of all drafts to ask for the deletion, where is the issue?

 

Khaled Omar

 

From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:33 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx>; Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; legal@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Enough is Enough.

 

Read BPC 78 section 4 <" data-mce-href="">

 

That will cause you to click over to <" data-mce-href="">

 

Inside RFC4844 try to locate the stream listed on your drafts.  Let us know what you find.

 

 

 

 

On 10/20/2020 2:20 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

Why no one is answering his question …..

 

Khaled Omar

 

From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:12 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx>; Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; legal@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Enough is Enough.

 

Personally, I can't think of any reason to keep the drafts laying around unless there is an intent to use some of its content down the road.  Is that the intent? 

 

 

On 10/20/2020 1:57 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

Donald,

 

>> In my opinion, these drafts should not and will not be deleted. They will time out six months after posting and be removed from the active directory.

 

As they are submitted by the IETF, they can be removed by the IETF, it doesn't make any sense to be inactive or the six period ended and still saved at the IETF, I should end that from the roots, please take an action at least in removing the drafts.

 

Jay, I think that you are now the responsible person as said by Tim, please delete them ALL, easy thing.

 

Khaled Omar

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:49 PM

To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Cc: Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx; legal@xxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: Enough is Enough.

 

Khaled,

 

You should give the file names if you submit a request related to drafts particularly as it seems that these drafts, except draft-omar-ipv10-12, do not follow the convention of including your name as the second token.

 

Assuming the other drafts have the same copyright and license notice as draft-omar-ipv10-12, you have granted copyright in these drafts jointly to the IETF Trust and yourself. The IETF Trust licenses IETF participants as in https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/IETF-TLP-5.pdf particularly Section 3.

 

In my opinion, these drafts should not and will not be deleted. They will time out six months after posting and be removed from the active directory.

 

Thanks,

Donald

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Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell)

2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:15 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Hi Jay,

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Could you please do the following request?

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Deleting these IDs completely from the IETF repository:

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1) Internet Protocol version 10 (IPv10).

2) IPmix.

3) KHALED Routing Protocol (KRP).

4) Regional Routing Protocol (RRP).

5) Numbering Exchange Protocol (NEP).

6) Satellite Internet (SI).

7) ASN Label Switching Protocol (ALSP).

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Thanks in advance.

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Khaled Omar

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From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:10 PM

To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx

Cc: ietf-draft-submission@xxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: Enough is Enough.

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I would ask an IESG member. And I think Jay Daley offered up legal@xxxxxxxx on a different thread.

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On 10/20/2020 1:00 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Dear IETFers,

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I hope this is my last e-mail with the IETF and I’m not feeling coward to repeat my first request regarding deleting my drafts from the IETF repository.

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Can anyone tell me whom is the responsible person for deleting drafts from the IETF?

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P.S. I don’t want to find any BCP or whatever that mention that the original author of the draft has not the right to ask for deleting his drafts as this doesn’t make any sense.

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I wish you good luck after the deletion and the ideas not being used by the IETF as they have no benefits as many claims.

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Sorry for any disturbance.

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Regards,

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Khaled Omar

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