Hi Henrik, It's the IETF that sets the rules about comments submitted to NomCom, and those submissions are of course completely confidential (and that extends to the LLC Board's liaison to NomCom, whose seat is not up for review). BCP10 says "The NomCom may disclose a list of names of nominees who are willing to be considered for positions under review to the community, in order to obtain feedback from the community on these nominees." I think any attempt to preempt the IETF rules on this by limiting who is part of that "community" is null and void. Regards Brian Carpenter On 13-Oct-20 08:37, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > I think the section on Nomcom feedback is broken, in that it in many respects > makes the LLC board members immune from feedback to the NomCom from some of > the individuals (staff, contractors, RPC) that have closest contact with the > LLC board members, and can most directly be affected by LLC Board misbehaviour. > > Having myself been affected in this way by bad behaviour from the board as > a contractor in the handling of the Tools Maintenance RFP a year ago, I find > it interesting that the LLC Board now proposes that I should be prevented from > giving feedback to the NomCom about board and member behaviour. > > The proposal mentions possible retaliation from staff or contractors against > LLC Board members, but not possible retaliation against staff or contractors > from LLC Board members. This is also seems skewed, and retaliation in the > other direction is unfortunately far more likely and easy to carry through if > there is no possibility of feedback to the NomCom. > > In any case, feedback to the NomCom about performance is a necessary check on > bad behaviour and unfitness for any position. I don't think any limitation > on feedback to the NomCom on the performance of NomCom-selected individuals is > appropriate. > > > Henrik > > > On 2020-10-12 01:23, IETF Executive Director wrote: >> The IETF Administration LLC (IETF LLC) has drafted a proposed IETF LLC Community Engagement Policy [1] that sets out how IETF LLC board, staff and contractors will engage with the IETF community, including >> >> * what involvement board, staff and contractors may have in the the development of RFCs; >> * what engagement they may have with the NomCom; >> * How the IETF LLC seeks community feedback; >> * What mechanisms the IETF LLC uses for community engagement. >> >> The policy proposes a new mailing list ietf-admin@xxxxxxxx for the discussion of IETF LLC related matters. >> >> The IETF LLC now seeks community feedback on this proposed policy. Please provide feedback by 26 October 2020 00:00 UTC using any of the following methods: >> >> * Raising an issue on the Github repository [2] >> * Direct to the IETF Executive Director at exec-director@xxxxxxxx >> * Direct to the IETF LLC Board (not including the IETF Executive Director) at llc-board-only@xxxxxxxx >> * To the ietf@xxxxxxxx list >> >> [1] https://github.com/ietf-llc/community-engagement-policy-consultation/blob/master/DRAFT%20Community%20Engagement%20Policy.md >> [2] https://github.com/ietf-llc/community-engagement-policy-consultation/issues >> >
