Hi Vinayak, hi Steward, Yes, this is the normal setup we apply for f2f meetings (given there is usually only a certain number of people that fit in a room). This question also came up during the IABopen session and it’s definitely something we will consider. It's still the goal of the workshop, as it would be for a f2f workshop, to be interactive and have a lively discussion. This is probably a challenge in itself for an online workshop as I expect the dynamics to be very different than when you can actually look at someone. As such we still did not decide how exactly we will organise this workshop (e.g. having smaller breakout sessions or some panel like discussion, or maybe some summary/“listen-in” portion) and the final structure will strongly depend on the contributions we get. Still, there is no intention to actually have a whole bunch of up-front presentations and as such we are really looking for a reasonable set of active contributors instead of people who would just "listen-in”. In that sense if you are interested in participating in the discussion, please simply send a short contribution describing your position! In any case there will be a workshop report, as for all IAB workshops, and given the timely topic, I really hope we can publish that report (or at least a first version of it) soon after the workshop has happened. Further, contributions (with permission of the authors) will also be uploaded on the workshop webpage. Mirja > On 8. Sep 2020, at 19:22, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The paper to attend normally arrises from the need to limit the audience when these happen F2F. > > However given that this will have to be virtual, I wonder if we should be exploring new working methods such as permitting (silent) observers? > > - Stewart > >> On 8 Sep 2020, at 17:53, Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> "The workshop will be by invitation only. Those wishing to attend should >> submit a position paper to the address above; this may take the form of >> an Internet-Draft." >> >> I can understand that everyone who can present needs to have a >> position paper but to attend? What is the reason for this requirement? >> It may be beneficial for members of the community to listen-in. Is it >> because of Chatham house rules? Also, will the recordings be available >> easily and/or hosted on the IETF site? >> >> Regards >> Vinayak Hegde >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:50 PM IAB Executive Administrative Manager >> <execd@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> COVID-19 Network Impacts Workshop >>> >>> An Internet Architecture Board virtual workshop >>> >>> Web page: https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/covid-19-network-impacts-workshop-2020/ >>> >>> The COVID-19 pandemic has had a tremendous impact on people's lives and >>> the societies and economies around the globe. But it also had big impact >>> on networking. With large numbers of people working from home or >>> otherwise depending on the network for their daily lives, network >>> traffic has surged. Internet service providers and operators have >>> reported 20% traffic growth or more in a matter of weeks. Traffic in >>> Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) is similarly on the rise. Most forms of >>> network traffic have seen an increase, with conversational multimedia >>> traffic growing in some cases more than 200%. And user time spent on >>> conferencing services has risen by an order of magnitude on some >>> conferencing platforms. >>> >>> In general, the Internet has coped relatively well with this traffic >>> growth. The situation is not perfect: there has also been some outages, >>> video quality reduction, and other issues. Nevertheless, it is >>> interesting to see how the technology, operators and service providers >>> have been able to respond to large changes in traffic patterns. >>> >>> Understanding what actually happened with Internet traffic is of course >>> interesting by its own right. How that impacted user experience, or the >>> intended function of the services is equally interesting. Measurements >>> and reports of traffic situation from 2020 are therefore valuable. But >>> it would also be interesting to understand what types of network >>> management and capacity expansion actions were taken in general. >>> Anecdotal evidence points to Internet and service providers tracking how >>> their services are used, and in many cases adjusting services to >>> accommodate the new traffic patterns, from dynamic allocation of compute >>> resources to more complex changes. >>> >>> The impacts of this crisis are also a potential opportunity to >>> understand the impact of traffic shifts and growth more generally, or to >>> prepare for future situations -- crisis or otherwise - that impact >>> networking. Or even allow us to adjust the technology to be even better >>> suited to respond to changes. >>> >>> The IAB is holding this workshop to convene interested researchers, >>> network operators, and network management experts, and Internet >>> technologists to share their experiences. The scope of the workshop >>> includes: >>> >>> - measurements about traffic changes, user experience, service >>> performance, and other relevant aspects >>> - discussion about the behind the scenes network management and >>> expansion activities >>> - experiences in the fields of general Internet connectivity, >>> conferencing, media/entertainment, and Internet infrastructure >>> - lessons learned for preparedness and operations >>> - lessons learned for Internet technology and architecture >>> >>> Interested participants are invited to submit position papers on the >>> workshop topics. The position papers form the background for actual >>> discussions in the workshop. The workshop itself will be virtual >>> meeting, focused on discussions based on the input rather than go >>> through each submitted paper. >>> >>> The workshop virtual meeting consists of several sessions dedicated to >>> specific topics, such as operations experience, lessons learned on >>> conferencing technology, or the possible impacts for Internet technology >>> or architecture. Given the wide breadth of the topics in the workshop, >>> individual participants may choose to participate the sessions that are >>> relevant for their experience, but can also follow the full set of >>> sessions. >>> >>> Logistics >>> >>> * Submissions Due: 9 October 2020 >>> * Invitations Issued by: 15 October 2020 >>> * Workshop Date: This is an over the Internet virtual workshop. Several >>> sessions will be scheduled for the different topics on the week of >>> November 9, 2020, based on input from the participants. >>> >>> The Program Committee members are Jari Arkko (IAB, Ericsson), Stephen >>> Farrell (IAB, Trinity College Dublin), Cullen Jennings (IAB, Cisco), >>> Colin Perkins (IRTF, University of Glasgow), Ben Campbell (IAB, >>> independent consultant), and Mirja Kühlewind (IAB, Ericsson). >>> >>> Send Submissions to: covidimpacts-workshop-pc@xxxxxxx >>> >>> Position papers from academia, industry and others that focus on >>> measurements, experiences, observations and advice for future are >>> welcome. Papers that reflect experience based on deployed services are >>> especially welcome. The organisers understand that specific actions >>> taken by operators are unlikely going to be discussed in detail, so >>> papers discussing general categories of actions and issues without >>> naming specific technologies, products, or other players in the >>> ecosystem fit well in this category as well. Papers that are proposals >>> for technology solutions are less useful, and can simply be submitted as >>> Internet-Drafts and discussed on relevant IETF lists. >>> >>> The workshop will be by invitation only. Those wishing to attend should >>> submit a position paper to the address above; this may take the form of >>> an Internet-Draft. >>> >>> All inputs submitted and considered relevant will be published on the >>> workshop web page. The organisers will decide whom to invite based on >>> the submissions received. Sessions will be organized according to >>> content, and not every accepted submission or invited attendee will have >>> an opportunity to present as the intent is to foster discussion and not >>> simply to have a sequence of presentations. >>> >>> Position papers from those not planning to attend the virtual sessions >>> themselves are also encouraged. A workshop report will be published >>> afterwards. >>> >> > > -- > Covidimpacts-workshop-pc mailing list > Covidimpacts-workshop-pc@xxxxxxx > https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/covidimpacts-workshop-pc
