> On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Appeal agenda says 'record results of e-vote' = We don't actually vote. There is no voting. We might tally up objections but we definitely don't vote. I can assure you that the IAB holds votes. I will say that the IETF (like many other things) requires like many things adapting to the environment you are in. There are many challenges along the way one faces when moving documents and work forward. I also think there’s people who are too into getting things published vs getting things working. It’s much easier to build something then work to make it a standard. I can think of many private things that could be standards that aren’t, eg: config files for applications. You see some of this playing out with SNMP models - and now yang. I’m sure it’ll be replaced with something else at some point too. An organization may need change, be it in process, culture or otherwise but style also matters over substance. Did the newcomer orientation and/or guide program not work for you? As a good mentor told me, turning an aircraft carrier takes time, even if we know where we want to go.. - Jared
