Hi Yoav,
I proposed Sharm El Shikh because it has large size hotels and conferences can be held there easily, and regarding food, I think all kind of foods are planted and cooked here so you can request your favorite food prior to arrival.
>> So why do you advocate for places with a very low number of people?
To feel free to have a tour and walk around the city with minimal chances of interaction with people after finishing meetings.
Khaled Omar
From: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:52 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: IETF Discussion <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Egypt as the next venue.
Hi, Omar.
Egypt has been a host to many international conferences. I’m not sure that Sharm el Shikh is right for the IETF, though.
The people coming to IETF meeting are diverse. You’ll have people who require vegetarian food, and vegans and people with peculiar allergies or eating habits. It is usually far easier to serve all those needs in a big city with a lot of restaurants than in a smaller place. When IETF met in Maastricht and in “Dublin” (actually a small town 15 km north of Dublin) there were a lot of complaints about the limited choice of foods. Now, Sharm el Shikh has 73,000 people making it a meduim-sized town, not 25,000 as in Maastricht, but it’s no Alexandria.
Many of the people coming to IETF meetings are cheap.. Sharm el Shikh is very touristy and as such rather expensive relative to other places in Egypt. Rather than having functional hotels, the place is full of resorts. By the time the IETF is ready to hold physical meetings again, tourism is likely to be in full swing as well.
So why do you advocate for places with a very low number of people?
On 24 Aug 2020, at 23:30, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi All,
This e-mail is to suggest Egypt as the next venue for the IETF meeting that needs to be held, as you know there are many cities and I prefer the one with very low number of poeple like Sharm El Shikh.
So you can check out that city and start taking it seriously into your consideration as I’m sure you will enjoy your time here, just if you will find your own partners.
Best regards,
Khaled Omar
With regards to the food requirements, it goes well beyond a preference for favorite foods and/or "peculiar allergies", it's also about medical conditions, such as celiac disease that requires a strict gluten-free diet or anaphylactic reactions that can cause death. So, some of us must know every ingredient that is in the food we consume. Typically, full service, higher end venues can support these requirements provided they are made aware ahead of time. But, it is something that needs to be taken seriously (as opposed to a preference or someone just being picky). And, we really need access to a full service market to fill in the gaps.
Regards,
Mary.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 6:54 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
