(Bcc to the IETF list and Cc to the architecture-discuss list) Thanks for circulating this. On 12-Aug-20 06:50, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > Scott Shenker et al. just presented a pretty thought-provoking "public option" for the Internet's core backbone at SIGCOMM: https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3387514.3405875 Hmm. "The technical Internet community has long embraced the notion that the Internet should be application-neutral; that notion later became known as network neutrality (a term coined in [57])." I dispute that assertion. "Network neutrality" is a slippery term, but certainly there is antipathy between some interpretations of it and RFC2474 and other QoS technologies. "We choose instead to initially create the POC’s backbone network out of a set of leased lines, and use the interconnections to one or more ISPs as a fallback if the POC’s backbone does not have sufficient connectivity." That sounds like a fairly accurate description of the Internet in about 1995, when ISPs had emerged but the de facto backbone was still largely non-profit and/or settlement-free. And note that non-profit transit networks existed then, and actively migrated to a for-profit model after about 1998. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBONE for an example. So I think history would likely repeat itself if this proposal was adopted. Maybe it's time to update https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-metrics Reactions to that draft from the then major transit ISPs were interestingly negative. Brian > > If you scroll down (or go to https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3387514.3405875#sec-supp), his recorded talk video gives a high-level overview. > > (PDF and video *should* be open access and work for me, but you never know with the ACM...) > > Lars >
