There were a couple of events specifically for newcomers which was really helpful and useful to meet new people, etc. But I completely agree with Vittorio regarding non-verbal queues. It’s a bit more unnatural just to walk up to a strangers avatar and introduce myself. Maybe some kind of tag on a newcomers name or a specific shirt color in gather.town would work to identify someone? I like Kathleen’s idea about regular, scheduled meetups thought, that would be helpful in meeting new people. Thanks! Jacob > On Jul 30, 2020, at 11:01 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > +1... especially wrt the "two weeks" part and Paul's explanation > of why. > > john > > > --On Thursday, July 30, 2020 13:46 -0400 Paul Wouters > <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Nico Williams wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:45:27AM -0400, Kathleen Moriarty >>> wrote: >>>> I've just had other obligations, although the one time I was >>>> on it was great. It may be useful to have regular meetup >>>> times where people know to go and chat throughout the year. >>>> Maybe weekly and targeted at time zone convenient/changing >>>> times. >>> >>> +1 >> >> That could work. >> >>> Also, maybe we need scheduled hallway meetups during other >>> weeks as well, because if one's TZ offset to the meeting's is >>> large enough, it's just too difficult to spare 10 hours a day >>> to the meeting and hallway meetings. >> >> For me, I noticed that after my early morning start and having >> a few >> meetings behind my laptop, I just need to have a break and >> leave my >> house, catch some sun and a coffee. So that means I'm not >> available in >> the "coffee time slots". I can't see myself doing 3h of >> meetings, 30 >> minutes of "still behind my laptop chatting with people", >> followed by >> 3h of meetings. >> >>> When I've attended physical meetings, the workday goes from >>> 8AM or so (breakfast, 9AM meetings) to around 11PM or >>> midnight even (dinner, "dinner BoFs", "bar BoFs", hallway >>> meetings, catching up with $WORK, etc.). That's a 16 hour >>> day considering that even just social events (eg lunch) >>> generally involve work in some fashion. There's no way to do >>> 10 of 16 hours on an 8 hour TZ phase difference. >> >> Even without the timezone change, those hallways and >> lunch/coffee >> meetings are still you taking a break from sitting in a chair >> behind >> your laptop. And gather.town does not offer me that. >> >>> We might want to consider spreadign remote-only meetings over >>> two weeks instead of one. >> >> Please don't :) >> I can mark a week as "IETF week" and my collegues know I'm >> mostly >> gone/busy, but extending that to two weeks would not work. It >> would >> result in me not being able to drop most non-IETF work, and it >> would >> be harder for me to be seen as "busy at IETF". So regular work >> would >> interfere and expect precedence over my IETF meetings. >> >> Paul >> > >
