Thanks for the thoughtful questions, Victor. I think the set of terms under consideration here is quite limited, and the remediation being proposed is similarly limited, so I'm not that concerned about potential impacts. I do think it would be a terrible idea to try to develop an exhaustive list of alternatives but a few examples might not be a terrible idea. One thing I think we need to be clear about is that we can only change what we do, not what others do, and if a reference from an older document or from another body contains language we no longer use we can add a few clarifying sentences. Having recently been through this in non-IETF contexts (including some truly hairball build/CI environments), the _decision_ to try to avoid exclusionary language can feel burdensome but the _implementation_ effort is really pretty trivial. Melinda -- Melinda Shore melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx Software longa, hardware brevis