On 11-Jun-20 11:36, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Jun 10, 2020, at 18:10, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> Again, I think the best outcome here would be to waive >> 100% and not 100 of the remote registration fees for >> IETF108 and let the community debate this before such >> decisions are taken. If we cannot afford that, then >> please say so clearly - that would be a relevant fact. >> But if we could afford that, I really don't get why >> it's ok to barge ahead like this. > > > I agree with Stephen. I’m a bit puzzled why an online meeting would need to recoup a lot of money. Staff, equipment, services, network capacity. I don't think this is mysterious, although I don't personally have the data to make a cost estimate. Since meeting revenues have been part of the IETF's budget for more than 30 years, and for many of those years they also partially funded ongoing Secretariat expenses, I don't find any of this surprising, except for the short notice of the actual fee structure. Certainly, we now have some discussion of principles to complete quite urgently. Brian