Hiya, On 07/06/2020 02:54, John C Klensin wrote: > > That is tied to the reasons I think that the LLC does not need > permission to charge a registration fee for participation in > online meetings. We have established the principle that > identification and registration of participants is required and > the principle that a fee may be charged for registration. > Applying such a fee to remote participants (and, incidentally to > remote participants in WG interim meetings) may violate > tradition and be a terrible idea (and that may be arguments > about where "pay to play" come in) but I don't think it breaks > any principles. While I agree with a lot of the rest of your email, I don't agree with the above. IMO, a move from zero to non-zero is a change that does require community consideration. I don't think we need to try reconcile those opinions right now (as there's a putative WG in the offing that'll discuss that) but just wanted to note that there are, and likely always will be, grey areas where it's not clear whether or not a decision is within the LLC's remit. I think in such cases the LLC needs to consult the IESG and/or community and in most cases defer to the community consensus, as established via our usual processes. There are also many non-grey areas (e.g. t-shirt shipping) where the community ought not (but will:-) nit-pick, but it's important for the LLC to make sure to distinguish things where the community needs a debate before a decision can be made. As there's no magic rule that distinguishes those cases, this comes down to experience with this community and judgement. Cheers, S.
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