On 5/11/20 4:14 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
Michael Thomas <mike@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's been my impression that a substantial amount of the work for > putting together BoF's, etc has been done loosely and informally > usually in the setting of a meeting and drinking beers with others (aka > bar BoF). Since we seem to be doing neither neither these days, from > what I can tell this list is the closest to that in purpose. Yet since > it's ietf-wide it includes lots of different areas and interests it's > easy to see how the signal to noise ratio might get bad in a I agree that ietf@xxxxxxxx is a good starting point, but I think one needs to take a bit of a shotgun to a half-dozen other MLs to let people know you are thinking of something. ietf@xxxxxxxx is not universally read, alas. Also making use of Any-of-Other-Business section of other virtual interims to talk briefly about things. I wouldn't be afraid of babbling about such things in the jabber, DURING (virtual) meetings, but also in hallway@
You mean wg ml's? Often that is the *last* place I'd want to bring something new up and from my experience the feeling is mutual :) And it's probably just as well that ietf@ is not universally participated in because it wouldn't scale if it became the new go-to place to do this.
Jabber or other forms of conferencing might be a vehicle for having the virtual bof, but it requires some sort of announcement. Iirc (it's been a while), these bar bofs are usually announced on a bulletin board where people can scan it for interesting stuff. So while bar bof's are informal, it's definitely in the ietf universe.
Our new tradition of "dispatch" areas is also a good thing.
Dispatch areas?
People write drafts, and it might be that intentionally invoking Cunningham's Law is a good idea.
Heh :) Mike