>This really doesn't say much about the scalability of the >solution. What it indicates is how much effort people are >willing to go to to commit what is perceived as victimless crime. Two things. First, here in Canada there is a new tax on "media" like writable CD's; (extendable to Memory cards, or anything that likely holds licenced media). And this ostensibly is redistributed to the artists via some sort of audit like Arbitron, etc. So, at least here downloading movies, etc is part of a transaction. Apparently, oddly its legal to download music specifically... but MAYBE isn't legal; to offer it on a permenently available server ... with what constitutes a "server" intentionally vague. Law is a work around by its very nature. It only pretends precision. Second: If/When I start a residential gateway I think I will do everything possible to make it IpNG capable. Thanks everyone for talking me into it. I'm trying to study it in detail a little every evening to get ready. I hope cable TV (my industry) get with the program and do this right. These little boxes glued all over the networks with there http interfaces... are not specifically too good. If anything will force the issue its going to be SIP I think. Does anyone know when/if Microsoft is bring out a consumer operating system with IpV6 in it? That would be useful for market acceptance...??? regs Dan