On 1/12/2004 9:03 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > IPv6's only hope of some modest level of deployment is, as the latter > part of your message points out, as the substrate for some hot > application(s). Somehow I doubt anything the IETF does or does not do > is going to have any affect on whether or not that happens. Yup, it needs a killer app or feature. Bigger address space was that feature, but one made moot by NATs. There are other features (security, etc), but they are end-user oriented and don't really hold promise to ISPs or the equipment manufacturers (the simple cost-of-goods factor means that the vendor community has negative motivation to offer IPv6 in low-end gear). There has to be some kind of effort to get past these hurdles -- development of a routing service that makes multi-homing simpler for everybody at a magnitude higher scale, or convincing vendors that IPv6 in the cheapest gear is in their best interests, and so forth. Since the engineers in the IETF tend to hold these kind of marketing efforts in relatively low regard, the likelihood of any of this changing is close to nil. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/