At 05:42 PM 1/9/2004, Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx wrote... >On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:13:50 EST, ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mike S) said: > >> Use of the MAPS RBL and DUL clearly impairs the availability and integrity of >> the Internet email system and the information transferred using that system. >> MAPS RBL and DUL participants are actively participating in illegal denial of >> service > >Erm. Sounds like you're choking on something. > No. You are. >Note that MAPS is *NOT* blocking a single piece of e-mail itself. None. Zip. Zero. Of course not. MAPS is simply a database. As I quite clearly said, *USE* of MAPS impairs email. >Meanwhile, the site that's actually rejecting your mail has made that decision *itself*, >that it doesn't want to receive mail from you, possibly with MAPS as one component >of the information used to make said decision. > >To have a chance of winning this argument, you'll have to prove that the receiving >system is legally *obligated* to accept every piece of mail that you might happen to >want to send. MX <> recipient. If I send email foobar@xxxxxxx to the published MX for aol.com and aol.com blocks the ultimate recipient from receiving that email, they are in violation of the law, having interfered with the availability of email for both the sending and receiving systems. By publishing an MX, they have agreed to accept email for any valid address within their domain. That's what an MX is. They are likely in breach of their civil contract with the recipient, also. Of course, anyone who publishes an MX record but refuses mail is simply an idiot incapable of understanding why the Internet exists in the first place. The Balkanization has begun. The Internet is dead.