ISOC should play a fundamental role here.
But let's face it:
They cannot operate a mailing list
They cannot operate a membership management system
They cannot fix Internet technical issues to their local sites
INET is a very low key conference that does not bring any world media coverage
same for IETF meetings
It has very low membership 10000 people out for 200 millions Internet users (?)
On their favor, they are lacking money to have proper staffing and they are doing a good job with their resources.
So how do we move from that to ISOC driving the Internet Governance part?
ISDF is somehow a loose collection of people that never stop to argue and do not produce much as a collective. IETF is nearly the same, except individuals came make contribution that will get peer reviewed... and they are motivated to do that...
So does ISOC needs to add a staff on its payroll who will be dedicated in reviewing governance documents and issues and publish RFCg (RFC on governance)? Like ISOC is paying for the IETF RFC writing Secretariat...
My quick answer is YES, and they must do it fast, real fast...
Hint: They can use some of the .org money for that...
Cheers
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 14:37, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
Ian,
many of us are wondering about the lack of debate in ISOC fora about WSIS
and in particular about the "governance" issues.
Surely ISOC has let go a good opportunity to make itself more visible and
relevant, which is quite surprising especially as the organization does
have headquarters offices in Geneva.
A consequence of this may be measured by the fact that, if my information
is right, there were only about ten people in attendance at the
meeting/presentations ISOC convened in Geneva.
Coming to the substance of your comments, many of us in ICANN have been
striving for a transfer of responsibilities to ICANN. This could be well
under way under the present contract (MoU) with the US Government, which
will last for three years. It is unfortunate that the impact of local US
politics has been detrimental to faster evolution on this front. Comments
like the one on this list, that the USG is a better counterpart, may or
may not be shared in other countries.
I am afraid that many, as it seems even in this list, do not perceive the
challenge to the whole Internet community that is being faced in WSIS.
Alejandro Pisanty
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, ipeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:15:26 +1100
> From: "ipeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ipeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: isdf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isdf] 1. New Report: "Understanding WSIS" (Hans Klein)
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>
> Thanks for posting that Hans - I was wondering when WSIS might be discussed within an open ISOC forum.
>
> In particular I am surprised there is no discussion on governance. I saw your comments in media somewhere today as regards the governance debate, particularly the concerns of many countries that US government can impose its interests on things.
>
> Whether it has chosen to or not in the past is irrelevant to this widely held perception, but those who want to promote the current ICANN model with multiple stakeholders might need to consider whether the anachronistic US government contract with ICANN should be substituted for some more contemporary measure. Certainly an ICANN without the US Government link is likely to receive far wider support.
>
> In any case I think it should be clear that there are probably a significant number of ISOC members who want the ICANN model without the single governmental tick. If a neutrally worded policy survey was conducted on this among members I am fairly sure what the membership would think.
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> Ian Peter
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