-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Note that I did not mean my comment as sarcasm or irony. If I would have, I would have put a ":-)" after it. I didn't. I am a newbie. I am still having déja vu. - - kurtis - On fredag, dec 5, 2003, at 15:35 Europe/Stockholm, jfcm wrote: > At 21:22 02/12/03, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: >> Hasn't this idea been killed enough? I am a newbie on the Internet >> (only been here since 1988) and _I_ am fed up with this discussion. > > Hi! Kurt, > did not see that one. I will respond it because it may help you > understanding. I am also a newbie as I only been here since 1977 (on > the other side of the "plug") and _I_ keep trying IETF people to > understand the same thing: there is a real world out there. > > The first time I had that discussion was with the first internut to > show up in an international users meeting in Tahoe probably in 1984. I > wish I remember the name of the guy. Could have been Vint from what I > remember, but I think the name was longer. > > It may interest you that I am a peacefull person and I want to reach > consensus. But I have Louis Pouzin involved (we both are on Eurolinc > BoD) who you may know. He specified the first "mail" program at MIT, > the scripts, the end to end datagram, the IP zones (recently Vint > recalled the Internet could have been called "catenet" from his > multiple routes concatenation approach - I think is the necessary > future). I am glad he is not active on this list :-) > > take care. > jfc > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 iQA/AwUBP9DBC6arNKXTPFCVEQLDrACcDdMJv1EkUTiFvSgyK0NCfrm5j8wAoMsv AmCiWpGg4IPEMvnVlOGSoVoS =vmrJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----