One thing that would surely help would be the merging of the IESG and the IETF into as seamless entity. This magic handwaving distance between the two entities is an issue these days. Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: <Margaret.Wasserman@xxxxxxxxx> To: <huitema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx>; <problem-statement@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: RE: Proposed statement quotes wrong numbers > In fact, if you go back to the archives of the 1992 > discussions, it was perceived then that the previous > structure did not scale. For example, the IAB was in > charge of reviewing every RFC before it could be > published, and as the number of WG increased that > became a bottleneck. A lot of the 1992 effort was about > designing a structure that would scale better -- i.e. > scale for much more than the 600-700 participants at the > time. In what way is the current structure substantially different from this? Instead of the IAB, the IESG now reviews every IETF-produced RFC before it is published, and we also manage the WGs. My understanding is that the primary effect of the 1992 change was to unite document review (which had been done by the IAB) and WG/process management (which had been done by the IESG) in a single group (the IESG). How would that improve scaling? Margaret