Vladis, > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:48:23 EDT, shogunx said: > > > If you have $2500 to ante up for the allocation. > > If the $2,500 is a stumbling block, you're probably WAY undercapitalized for > the project in the first place.... > A situation I'm used to. > Why do you need your own allocation? Either because you're getting pretty > big, or you want to multihome a /26 or some such tiny allocation. Or you are building new infrastructure. > > Let's say you're getting big enough to want your own /19 - even if you're in a / > 20 and growing, that's still 4,000 machines (either your own or customers).. > plus admin salaries, rent, etc, you're a fairly good sized business. That $2500 > shouldn't be a breaking cost - if it is, you're close to failing already and need to be > thinking about consolidating, not expanding... > Actually just starting to do thing this way. In the past I have found it expedient to simply bypass any security measures and connect a machine wherever necessary. And the point is, who decided that IP addresses are a commodity item anyway? > If you're tiny and trying to multihome, and can't afford $2500, you're probably > not going to be able to afford the router and 2 or more leased lines, and the > expertise to do it - you probably should be looking at a colo instead. > No need to multihome. In fact, for this PARTICULAR application, I can probably use a free v6 /24 from a tunnel broker routed over a private address network, although the users will probably notice the packet latency from their terminal to the tunnel broker, and its a nasty kludge. Router? I can build that if necessary. Colo? Why when I have access to a Tier 1 NOC with backbone running through it, though that is 600 miles away. Scott > sleekfreak pirate broadcast world tour 2002-3 live from the pirate hideout http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/