What Doug Royer is complaining about is that his mail client previously told him right away. He didn't have to wait for a bounce. Now he has to wait for a bounce, and that is a "big change". As I pointed, this is incorrect behavior to begin with, on the part of MUA. It is therefore, "not a big change". Proper MUA's previously handed the message to a relay, and got a bounce. Proper MUA's still get a bounce. You still get a bounce, and you still find out that the domain is incorrect. Nothing has changed. Your assertions below are irrelevant to the original message. As such, they are in fact sophistry. --Dean On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:45:14 EDT, Dean Anderson said: > > I think you have pointed out that this is indeed the function of a mail > > server, not a mail client. It is a bug. > > OK Dean, let's go back and look at the original message. > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Doug Royer wrote: > > Before the change if I email user@bogushost.com, the email tool would > > tell me immedatally > > that no such host exists. > > Well you know what Dean? When I mail to a duff address, my MUA (exmh) > hands it off to a proper MTA, and the MTA gets an error. And it hands a bounce > message back to my MUA, which tells me about it. > > Hey - look what my mail tool is telling me: > > ---- > (multipart/report) > Human-readable report (text/plain) > ********************************************** > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > ********************************************** > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:42:05 -0400 (EDT) > from IDENT:mirapoint@evil-zidane [10.1.1.13] > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > <rbooker@vsu.edu>... Deferred: Connection timed out with vsu.vsu.edu. > Warning: message still undelivered after 1 day > Will keep trying until message is 3 days old > ---- > > The DSN was generated on a Alphaserver running Sendmail some 8 miles > from where I'm typing. My laptop never even tried to resolve vsu.edu in connection > with this transaction. But I'm getting the notification from my MUA. > > And neither is there any actual justification for your claim that the original poster's > mail client tried to do the lookup. > > So all your sophistry about "the client shouldn't be doing it" is just that. Sophistry. >
