On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Edward Lewis wrote: > At 14:18 +0100 9/16/03, Zefram wrote: > >It is necessary that the wire protocols distinguish between existence and > >non-existence of resources in a standard manner (NXDOMAIN in this case) > >in order to give the client the choice of how to handle non-existence. [ on dns not the best choice for authoritative non-existence ] > are not in the reverse DNS map. So, to those who were relying on DNS > for "existence" or "legitimacy," perhaps they need to consider an > alternate method. (Namely something like whois or crisp.) I'm not sure whether thats a good idea. The main fuss at the moment, apart from Verisign acting without consultation, is that a lot of automated software makes the assumption that 'NXDOMAIN' means 'Does Not Exist'. Adding the wildcard removes this assumption, and removes DNS as a useful stateless low-overhead method of existence-verification. For these items of software to change from using a stateless method of existence-verification with low overhead, to using a semi-stateless method of existence-verification with high overhead, is something akin to the Y2K bug in scope, albeit without all the hype. Operationally, having one's not-low-overhead whois server being hit by automated queries solely for existence-verification is a terrible state of affairs. > PPS - Maybe this will raise the need for the CRISP WG to develop a protocol. I can see a lot of people requesting a low-overhead stateless subset of crisp/whois. -- Bruce Campbell I speak for myself.