>Why is this even difficult. I have yet to see a firm proposal (ie. an >Internet Draft),... >My challenge - Go forth - publish your protocol in ID form... 1. I remind you to read my initial post that started this thread: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg22035.html "Request for opinions on whether to creating a working group or publish the following idea as an internet draft?" I think that qualifes under "initial discussion" of the charter of this list (see #2 below). 2. And to read the charter for this mailing list: http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html "This list is meant for initial discussion only. Discussions that fall within the area of any working group or well established list should be moved to such more specific forum..." 3. Just a fews posts back in this thread, it was suggested that IRTF would be a better forum for anti-spam proposals and discussions, and I agreed (to consider it if possible and applicable). However there is a another line of discussion in this thread pertaining to general information theory and modeling of channels which is still winding down ("initial discussion") and seems quite general to internet engineering. 4. The basic difficulty has been those violating the charter of the list: http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html "Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject." such as the "Kook" thread offshoot that someone started. Shelby Moore http://AntiViotic.com