Vernon Are you suggesting that we would need a new working group to allow 2629 conformant xml to be optionally submitted with text to the I-D archive? Why? I'm not proposing any new RFC. Guidelines to authors is not an RFC. 2629 is an RFC. The xml2rfc tool, which is not the only tool around, but it's a good one, puts a 70 line style header in front of the text, but then has almost no other "bloat" that I can see. Is that too much? I don't think there is any "cruft" at all in the xml described in RFC2629. Now, to the charge that this is feeping creaturism, we must admit guilt. I think there is some value in this proposal. Many seem to agree. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Vernon Schryver [mailto:vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:16 AM > To: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: A modest proposal - allow the ID repository to hold xml > > > > From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca> > > > ... > > [*] The critical aspect is that the DTD *must* be kept > simple. If the DTD > > evolves into a Turing machine with Perl-like syntax we can just > > acknowledge that it's time to shut down the IETF and go > home. I cling to > > the forlorn hope that people still know - and more importantly, > > understand - what the 'E' in IETF stands for. > > I don't know about shutting down the IETF, but I do know that in > this century you've stated the compelling reason to run screaming > from this set of proposals. > > Have you looked at the 250 lines of XML cruft that Microsoft thinks > are required to accompany a 1 word mail message today? > > Have you ever glanced at the incredibly bloated and broken HTML > that most HTML mark-up tools produce? > > Now recall the galloping freeping creaturism of the last 3 > I-Ds you've read. > > A "Turing machine with Perl-like syntax" would be incomparably simpler > and cleaner than the result of the 5 years work of the new working > group in the new area. (What--you don't realize that a new working > group would be required?) > > > Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com > > _______________________________________________ > This message was passed through > ietf_censored@carmen.ipv6.cselt.it, which is a sublist of > ietf@ietf.org. Not all messages are passed. Decisions on what > to pass are made solely by Raffaele D'Albenzio. >
