-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> writes: Eric> I think what's going on here is that there is a disconect between Eric> two groups of people: people who think of the IETF as a combination Eric> work/vacation opportunity and people who think of the IETF as Eric> purely for work. If you're part of the former group, the general Eric> attractiveness of the venue makes a difference. If the second, Eric> all that matters is that things be convenience. Eric> Myself, I'm part of the second group. I flew in on Sunday and out Eric> on Friday and was in meetings almost the whole time, so whether Eric> Vienna is beautiful or not is basically irrelevant to me. That's pretty much it. I found the conference centre pretty good, generally. I would return. It always seems a shame to go a nice city for IETF and not see much of it, but I've realized that this is fine - I'm not usually in a mood for vacation at an IETF anyway. This is why many of us find Minneapolis just fine - hotel seems to get it now, we know where all the food is, and the terminal room cables are pre-cut. ] Out and about in Ottawa. hmmm... beer. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys - custom hacks make this fully PGP2 compat iQCUAwUBPy/2NYqHRg3pndX9AQG6ugP2OZeZWg03ZuoTx5SgM0S7oXPwsaEtEKfE z67Ee++rPUrgEK3QzwPRPfd1sFU5WJxZ6J3Lg1zwaczYf4cRBh3NQWSqiXoVNUl9 3+e4RoO9QGK4mb+fvrULqVNap0qSosATVJiga/9qxcHu6VdzxRCPdREPVLidonID 0rvMABTkgA== =6G+m -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----