The problem with exploration is that it misses the advantage of having us all in the same place - this meeting is about getting hallway conversations going and cross-fertilization. If we all agreed to go to Schwedenplatz, fine... it would work. (And they didn't serve much other than scottish food) If you want to explore the city - great. I like that too - and a reason why I show up early and don't leave first thing Friday morning. But it isn't a goal of the IETF to make us familliar with foreign cities :-) ] Out and about in Ottawa. hmmm... beer. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [