*> From owner-ietf@ietf.org Mon Jun 23 08:26:17 2003 *> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:26:03 -0400 *> From: "vinton g. cerf" <vinton.g.cerf@mci.com> *> Subject: Re: non-complain mail system at alcatel.com *> X-Sender: vcerf@pop.mcilink.com *> To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>, postmaster@alcatel.com, *> dns-tech@alcatel.com, dns-admin@alcatel.com, alain.sabban@alcatel.fr, *> hostmaster@alcanet.no *> Cc: info@cira.ca, ietf@ietf.org *> MIME-version: 1.0 *> X-AntiVirus: scanned by AMaViS 0.2.1 *> *> I would be interested to know whether Alcatel really believes that DNS behaves in such a way that one MUST delegate at each "dot" - as far as I know, it is NOT required to do so. Of course it is not!! I'll bet you will find a counter example in the DNS RFCs. Bob *> *> vint *> *> At 04:01 PM 6/22/2003 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: *> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- *> > *> > *> >Alcatel.com does not have a functional email system. It believes that *> >all domains must have full NS-record delegations. I.e. that my domain *> >"sandelman.ottawa.on.ca" must be a delegation from "ottawa.on.ca", *> >rather than from "ca". (The .CA namespace has a single ccTLD) *> > *> >I have contacted Alcatel repeatedly by email and by phone in the *> >past months, and I have gotten no response to this. A major problem is that *> >I think that only one of their MX's has this behaviour. *> > *> >So, I'm resorting to the only other way I have - embarassment. *> > *> >Specifically, it says: *> > *> >The original message was received at Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:27:27 -0400 (EDT) *> >from IDENT:root@lox.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca [192.139.46.2] *> > *> > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- *> ><Donna.Hogan@alcatel.com> *> > (reason: 550 sender ignored: ottawa.on.ca does not have a name server record) *> > *> > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- *> >... while talking to primary.alcatel.com.: *> >>>> MAIL From:<mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> *> ><<< 550 sender ignored: ottawa.on.ca does not have a name server record *> >554 5.0.0 Service unavailable *> > *> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- *> >Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) *> >Comment: Finger me for keys *> > *> >iQCVAwUBPvYLIYqHRg3pndX9AQH+1QP/fe0rInX+kaX3QQFFlnF6qNEzDyVGsTcf *> >NptzvtrzSUqQC1TMXYMII25nkvk4G2p73qWDxmoTxGhax/CYhJyZwPfPpLO/AqV9 *> >Nl8wmGE6sLMMCorgsX+O52Q5Rdni/LK/yMz0RYf/wkZnhIBTpqINww6TtANnsAZ5 *> >RkOSQjDwrLc= *> >=7AxR *> >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- *> *> Vint Cerf *> SVP Architecture & Technology *> MCI *> 22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115 *> Ashburn, VA 20147 *> 703 886 1690 (v806 1690) *> 703 886 0047 fax *> vinton.g.cerf@mci.com *> www.mci.com/cerfsup *> *> *> *>