Michael Thomas <mat@cisco.com> writes: > So just saying that NAT is here get used to it is, > architecturally, not helpful. The split of effort > is to put it mildly a huge drain on engineering > talent, but more importantly the net is becoming > more and more incomprehensible because of it, both > intellectually as well as operationally. That > strikes me as a profound architectural issue, one > that should scare anybody who cares about the net. > > So yes, to my mind saying "get used to it" is a > weird position because it discounts the problems > of the status quo and doesn't really express any > vision for what the architecture *ought* to be, or > drive us in a direction which will make that > determination possible. What NAT's are telling us > is that there are requirements that aren't being > met with the current Internet. But that's really > the only thing they should be telling us because > we already know that NAT's fail miserably on other > requirements. We want an architecture that meets > all of the requirements, not a hodgepodge of half > solutions which fall over in the first stiff > breeze. I can agree with most of this, but I don't think that it's incompatible with "get used to it". Look at it this way: I'm used to the fact that I'm bald, even though I don't like it. At some point there may be something I can do about that and at that point I would do it. In the meantime, I wear a hat. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla ekr@rtfm.com] http://www.rtfm.com/