% Tim writes: % % > But a year ago we didn't have Abilene, GEANT % > or a large number of European NRENs offering % > a native IPv6 service. % % A year ago, my parents weren't using IPv6, whereas today ... they still % aren't using it. When their connection is IPv6, I'll know that it has % arrived. so, you expect your parents to adopt new technology before you do? % > On the coal face, we can see real progress. % Wait until the coal is producing power for your microwave before you % celebrate. for many, this is true now. coal is the fuel used to generate much of the electrical power... unless, like some, they have a "Mr. Fusion" % > If you want to keep running IPv4, with or without NAT, % > feel free. % % That's exactly what people will do, until and unless they encounter a % problem with IPv4 that can only be solved by IPv6. Your sweeping generalization does not ring true. However with a willing suspension of disbelief, this might be why the DoD has decided to adopt IPv6. It wants to do things that can't be done w/ IPv4. And the IETF should be excited that someone is actually considering adopting an IETF work product. --bill Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise).