Okay. Can somebody please tell me what the relevance of this is to the IETF. This is absolute noise. Take this thread off-line. This list is starting to annoy the heck out of me. I am starting to get the same feeling about this list and SPAM. The list is starting to be unusable. Moderator please do your job and moderate!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Schneiders [mailto:marc@schneiders.org] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:15 PM > To: william@elan.net > Cc: Rob Austein; ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Last 7 days on the IETF list > > > I am sure you are right, but in the list below the bytes and > number-of-messages rankings are more or less identical. Since > this is in the context of overload of the list by a limited > number of people, the number of bytes real contribution is > not relevant. People don't read it anymore. All what counts > is number of (slight) irritations while reading mail and > total bytes traffic (if we pay for it). > > What you want to know, isn't ascertainable through some log > analyzing script. You have to read all the messages. And we > do not do that anymore. > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, at 17:43 [=GMT-0700], william@elan.net wrote: > > > I don't think posting message size is quite appropriate as part of > > your statistics and even more particularly as a criteria to > order the > > list. Unless I'm mistaken you're calculating bytes for > entire message > > but often > > > 75% comes from another message being replied to and so you can't > > > really > > judge amount of input the actual poster added to the > message. If you > > want message bytes statistics, you could try to see what > parts of that > > were not from previous message and only calculate size > based on that. > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Rob Austein wrote: > > > > > Traffic statistics (as seen from my cave, your milage may > vary) for > > > the last seven days on the ietf@ietf.org mailing list. > > > > > > Conclusions, if any, are left as an exercise for the reader. > > > > > > > > > Messages | Bytes | Who > > > -------+-----+-------+---------+------------------------ > > > 11.4% | 53 | 13.9% | 233614 | dean@av8.com > > > 12.2% | 57 | 10.1% | 170963 | anthony@atkielski.com > > > 7.5% | 35 | 7.2% | 121074 | ehall@ehsco.com > > > 3.0% | 14 | 4.8% | 80253 | pdeutsch@earthlink.net > > > 3.9% | 18 | 3.6% | 60755 | valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu > > > 3.4% | 16 | 3.5% | 58293 | alh-ietf@tndh.net > > > 3.6% | 17 | 2.6% | 43278 | > michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us > > > 2.8% | 13 | 2.2% | 37288 | moore@cs.utk.edu > > > 2.4% | 11 | 2.3% | 37930 | dwm@xpasc.com > > > 2.1% | 10 | 2.2% | 37479 | vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com > > > 2.1% | 10 | 2.2% | 36561 | iljitsch@muada.com > > > 2.1% | 10 | 1.9% | 31676 | l.wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk > > > 1.9% | 9 | 1.8% | 31053 | shogunx@sleekfreak.ath.cx > > > 1.9% | 9 | 1.8% | 31016 | vixie@vix.com > > > 1.9% | 9 | 1.7% | 27856 | dhc2@dcrocker.net > > > 1.9% | 9 | 1.6% | 27349 | dja2003@hotpop.com > > > 1.9% | 9 | 1.5% | 24511 | sbwoodside@yahoo.com > > > 1.1% | 5 | 2.1% | 34761 | steflist@thor.nma.com > > > 1.7% | 8 | 1.3% | 21321 | jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu > > > 1.3% | 6 | 1.7% | 28495 | richard@shockey.us > > > 1.3% | 6 | 1.2% | 19636 | tomson_eric@yahoo.fr > > > 1.3% | 6 | 1.1% | 19259 | jstracke@centive.com > > > 0.9% | 4 | 1.5% | 24586 | john-ietf@jck.com > > > 1.1% | 5 | 1.0% | 16989 | mat@cisco.com > > > 0.9% | 4 | 0.9% | 15992 | avi@bridgewatersystems.com > > > 0.9% | 4 | 0.9% | 14418 | huitema@windows.microsoft.com > > > 0.9% | 4 | 0.8% | 13896 | phoffman@imc.org > > > 0.9% | 4 | 0.7% | 12281 | dee3@torque.pothole.com > > > 0.9% | 4 | 0.7% | 11323 | ietf@soaring.demon.co.uk > > > 0.9% | 4 | 0.7% | 11275 | tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.8% | 13511 | darkuncle@darkuncle.net > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.7% | 12302 | harald@alvestrand.no > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.9% | 14402 | dws@hunnysoft.com > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.8% | 14209 | mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.6% | 10191 | wessorh@ar.com > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.6% | 10181 | rwelty@averillpark.net > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 9109 | lear@cisco.com > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 8328 | john.loughney@kolumbus.fi > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 7803 | > sommerfeld@orchard.arlington.ma.us > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 7584 | billc44@citynet.net > > > 0.6% | 3 | 0.4% | 6866 | randy@psg.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.8% | 13680 | soohong.park@samsung.com > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.5% | 8935 | stephen@sprunk.org > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.5% | 7722 | tytso@mit.edu > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.5% | 7620 | rra@stanford.edu > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6916 | jmorris@cdt.org > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6630 | dank@hq.lindsayelec.com > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6470 | dominic.pinto@ieee.org > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6156 | zefram@fysh.org > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.6% | 9711 | awduche@awduche.com > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 5077 | bmanning@isi.edu > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4924 | fritz_saad@hotmail.com > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4618 | ekr@rtfm.com > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4576 | cdel@firsthand.net > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4438 | anewton@ecotroph.net > > > 0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4335 | garmitage@swin.edu.au > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.5% | 7750 | alain.durand@sun.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 7195 | dws+001@hunnysoft.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6953 | bob@wyman.us > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6315 | ggm@apnic.net > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6293 | et7563@sbc.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6003 | atul.sabharwal@intel.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 5766 | hardie@qualcomm.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 5699 | dhc@dcrocker.net > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 5206 | cchaplin@sj.symbol.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4923 | peterf@exchange.microsoft.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4425 | page@mail.msen.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4388 | braendt@hotmail.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4306 | gk@ninebynine.org > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 4096 | jorge.contreras@haledorr.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3465 | inanbe@xs4all.nl > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3310 | hinden@iprg.nokia.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3214 | smb@research.att.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3194 | gray@washington.edu > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3085 | ole@cisco.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3077 | rod.walsh@nokia.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2958 | msa@burp.tkv.asdf.org > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2946 | vinton.g.cerf@mci.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2782 | swb@employees.org > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2761 | jtk@depaul.edu > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2661 | bob.natale@appliedsnmp.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2621 | spencer_dawkins@yahoo.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2510 | glc@cisco.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2416 | klensin@jck.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2323 | braden@isi.edu > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2303 | kent@bbn.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2265 | andy.malis@vivacenetworks.com > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2259 | jfbauer@comcast.net > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2175 | benson.schliesser@savvis.net > > > 0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 1789 | noc@nso.org > > > -------+-----+-------+---------+------------------------ > > > 100.0% | 466 |100.0% | 1684907 | Total > > > > > > > > > > >