You can add me as well if you like, but I really think its your own reply that was not fair. There is nothing from Richard's email that suggested he's "pro-spammer" or "pro-troll". It's all regarding quility of discussions on this list which have seriously deteriorated in the past week and his message about keeping your personal attacks out of the list and not judging somebody just based on what he/she believes is absolutly right. On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Michel Py wrote: > Added to the pro-troll and pro-spammer list: Richard Perlman. > > Michel. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Perlman [mailto:perl@lucent.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:53 PM > To: 'IETF Discussion' > Cc: harald@alvestrand.no > Subject: Re: This IETF discussion list > > All: > > I have been loosely tracking the SPAM discussion and really had nothing > significant to add. However, a related posting did catch my attention > and > interest, enough so to warrant a response. > > While I certainly am not interested in taking sides on the personal > accusations that have been seen recently, I do have serious concerns > about > the message quoted below. I personally detest the daily deluge of > unwanted > unsolicited e-mails I receive. However, I would be even more upset to > find > that one's belief or support for or against any topic should be the > criteria > by which their contributions were judged. > > As despicable as I may find the concepts, opinions and thoughts of > others, a > world in which the expression of only those ideas that I found > acceptable > would be far worse. > > Having said that, I do want to be clear, that while I think there needs > to > be freedom for expression of ideas, that expression must be done in a > way > that encourages discussion and values the participation of everyone. > There > is no room for personal remarks and attacks in a conversation of ideas. > > Richard > > On 6/3/03 15:00, "Dean Anderson" <dean@av8.com> quoted: > > ================== > > Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:09:25 +0200 > > From: "Tomson Eric (Yahoo.fr)" <Tomson_Eric@Yahoo.fr> > > To: 'Eric A. Hall' <ehall@ehsco.com>, 'John Stracke' > > <jstracke@centive.com> > > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: spam > > > > Guys, > > > > Dean Anderson obviously supports and defends SPAM. > > No further conversation with him could lead to anything constructive. > > Stop feeding the Troll, now. > > > > E.T. > >