SK> We can continue this repartee as long as you wish. I do have a day except that the exchange adds to already-problematic denial of service attack on the list, by virtue of increasing the noise but not the signal. at the least, please take it offline. d/ -- Dave Crocker <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com> Sunnyvale, CA USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253>, <fax:+1.866.358.5301>