on 6/2/2003 4:15 PM Tony Hain wrote: > I agree with the idea of a BOF, but 'anti-spam' is the wrong focus. Spam > is a social problem, not an engineering one. I contend that is why we > already have a research group dealing with it (social problems are > inherently difficult for engineers, thus requiring research to figure > out). Focus the group on a tangible engineering problem, deployable > authenticated email. Or as Vixie labeled the more generic, interpersonal > batch communication system. I agree that this is the right approach to pursue. In fact, I think we could probably skip the BoF and start talking about that particular topic immediately ("secure mail", not "anti-spam technologies", which is an interesting research topic but is a dead-end outside negotiated usage domains). All we probably need to get started is a mailing list, if anybody feels like setting one up. I would also _still_ like to see the I*** leadership fill the necessary jurisdictional roles of liason, so that the current and future technical mechanisms can be presented as hooks for the anti-spam legislation that is needed to actually solve the social problem of spam. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/