Re: spam

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On vrijdag, mei 30, 2003, at 02:18 Europe/Amsterdam, Christian Huitema wrote:

However, creating new publick/private key pairs is an incredibly
expensive operation,

Uh? Creating a Diffie-Hellman public/private key pair is actually quite
simple. Even an RSA pair is not all that hard, considering that a set of
N prime numbers can generate N.(N-1)/2 key pairs.

Ok, so the actual generating of new keys may not help us much.


The logical
consequence of authenticated e-mail is bound to be authenticated spam...

You don't see that as a step in the right direction?

It depends whether you use something like PGP or something like PKI. If
PGP or PGP-like, then the spammers can very easily create throw away
identities, and we have not gained much.

Only the ability to recognize a known sender.


In fact, spammers seldom fake
the email addresses of one of your friends, so a PGP solution would not
be a dramatic improvement over simply maintaining a "white list" of
friendly email addresses.

Right.


If PKI or PKI-like, then the spammers would need to obtain an actual
certificate for each of their throwaway identities. But so would
everyone else, which implicitly limits the cost of obtaining a
certificate to whatever the public can bear, and the amount of identity
checks to whatever the public is willing to accept, which today is an
e-mail reachability test. So, the spammers will be slowed down, but not
much.

Disagree. If people want to run their own MTA or a substantial mailing list, it's not unreasonable to require much more than a simple email reachability check. Usually this includes buying a domain name anyway. Having to buy a certificate or having some relations sign a newly generated key isn't a huge imposition.


People who don't want/need an MTA of their own and only send hand-typed email can use a service provider who can limit the number of messasges from such customers to 100 per hour or so. That means that even if a spammer spams for an entire weekend until his account is yanked, that's less than 10k messages which isn't enough to make spamming worth their while.



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