Type 1 spammers don't take that "discount". When they do, we make them pay. Type 1 spammers also seem to (in vast majority) understand that open relays do not offer any anonymity. This is the _false_ assertion of radical anti-spammers, who seem to me to be the abusers. Chris Neill (antispammer open relay abuser eventually fired from Verio--he was ironically, an abuse admin) was shocked to learn he was't anonymous, like he thought. The claims made by antispammers about open relays are false. Type 1 spammers seem to get that, judging by their behavior. But radical antispammers don't. --Dean On Wed, 28 May 2003, John Stracke wrote: > Dean Anderson wrote: > > >We are lucky that spammers don't get a discount > > > Open relays give them a five-finger discount. > > -- > /===============================================================\ > |John Stracke |jstracke@centive.com | > |Principal Engineer|http://www.centive.com | > |Centive |My opinions are my own. | > |===============================================================| > |"Power corrupts; Powerpoint corrupts absolutely." -- Vint Cerf | > \===============================================================/ > > > >