Bryan writes: > Do we expect to resolve anything by continuing > this discussion here at this time? We don't know if we don't try. Should we just wait for a Presidential blue-ribbon committee, or a direct-marketing consortium report, or a study by the Attorney General? Would you rather that someone else decided for you, including the potential changes that would affect your ability to use the Internet? I wrote a couple of suggestions in a reply to "spam and fax," but nobody seems to have noticed. > Again, the subject itself has great value to us all, > but the current discussion does not, other than a > release of written steam, if you will, which all of > us are being subjected to, in some cases against our > wishes. Of all groups using the Internet, I'd expect people contributing to the IETF to understand the absurdity of expecting the rest of the world to censor its output rather than filter its input. In other words, if you aren't interested in the messages you see on the list, don't read them. I delete most of the traffic I see on this list most of the time, because many issues aren't of direct interest to me, and often I have nothing to contribute. But I don't send messages to the list telling them to stop talking about things because it's such a tremendous burden on me to press the delete key on my PC. > While I realize I am capable of deleting everything > even mentioning SPAM from the ietf list ... Exactly. > ... I would point out that I did so this morning already, > when I (after not checking email for 12 hours) had 140+ > such items to delete. Click the first item, hold down shift, click the last item, then press Delete. I can do this in a second or two. In fact, I do it all the time, on many different lists. > This is getting nowhere fast, and I reiterate the request > to take it offline, please. I've never complained about anything on this list, and I've certainly received many thousands of messages in which I had absolutely no interest. The fact that I'm not interested in them doesn't mean that others should stop discussing them just to allow me to rest my index finger. I'm not the only person on this list or on the Internet, and I don't expect or ask the rest of the world to produce only the e-mail messages that I find acceptable and interesting. I find this to be a sensible and considerate policy, and the only one that really can be practically implemented, anyway. I submit it for your consideration. I won't even charge a consulting fee for the time I spent reading your complaint and replying to it.