Paul writes: > actually, i can speak for myself, there's no need > to interpret for me. You may not be saying what you are thinking, however. > i'm calling you a troll because you're urging > people to pay no attention to the costs, to just > hit delete, and to avoid filtering since you claim > that the costs of false positives are too high. You're calling me a troll because you disagree with me, and you hope to make your opinion seem more objectively valid than mine by discrediting me personally. It's a poor debate technique, and not very persuasive to those who are aware of the fallacy it contains. > those are the three key issues that every > spammer-in-troll raises whenever they join public > debates on the issue of spam. I wouldn't know, as I don't recall having (knowingly) talked to spammers directly. > usually it takes a week, but you did it all in > 36 hours. congrats? I'm afraid I don't understand. > you act as if headroom would have no value. It depends on the SD of the traffic and the desired uptime. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do know queuing theory, although it has been a few decades since I last used it to any extent. > maybe that's true for you but again i'll suggest > that you avoid trying to interpret for me unless you're > offering to pay me $552 per month in perpetuity. Since you've interpreted for me by making assumptions about my costs for false positives and use of the delete key, I'm surprised that you object to any assumptions I make concerning your costs. But I'm speaking of a general case, not your case or mine. > in order to get 20:1 rejection rates at the smtp level, > i have to analyze the stuff. How do you analyze stuff you reject? Isn't the whole idea of rejection to avoid processing? And doesn't analysis require processing? > since the major cost is in receiving it, the minor > inconvenience of storing and analyzing it is pretty low. But if you are storing and analyzing it, you're still paying the major cost of receiving it. > the better my analysis, the less i receive ... How do you avoid receiving what you don't want without any analysis or storage?