Thus spake "Lloyd Wood" <l.wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk> > Is an MPEG transport stream a link layer? > > invariable, you say? Some networks do actually use an MPEG transport stream for a link layer; e.g. VSAT and ATSC. The former has hundreds of thousands of units deployed, and the latter will have millions within a few years. This is clearly important to standardize. No reasonable use for IP over MIME has been proposed. Research projects do not qualify, nor does "it might be useful for ..." The IETF should not be encouraging a protocol whose sole use appears to be bypassing legitimate firewalls. Furthermore, as Keith noted, normative references to non-standards-track documents are not allowed, and this alone is enough to keep this draft off the standards track until this is fixed. S Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking