Eliot Lear wrote: > Nobody ignored anything. To start with, the application > community has > had to work around these sorts of problems. This is why > there are SIP > proxy gateways, STUN services, and MX gateways. All of these > exist due > to connectivity limitations (either intentional or > architectural). All > of these cases fall under the "Got Lemons? make lemonade" > approach. So > I believe you've mischaracterised the community. Those are all examples of building complexity into the infrastructure so that the app can maintain the fantasy that the world is flat. Personally I would rather see the Lemons turned into a nice desert than squeezed and watered down. Tony