Agreed. To enable access from behind firewalls (ie: homes, hotels, conferences, airports, Asia, ...), we can donate a B2BUA-based NAT traversal solution for SIP (same one that Pulver's Free World Dialup uses). It sits near the proxy, with nothing needed on the client end. Bottom line: In addition to helping the IESG and IAB, it will help SIP to have more IETF participants gaining experience with it. -Dan Dan Freedman, CEO, Jasomi Networks, Inc. 2033 Gateway Place, Suite 500, San Jose, CA, 95110 Phone +1.403.680.2351 Fax +1.403.269.2993 Email dan@jasomi.com SIP dan@jasomi.com Web www.jasomi.com -----Original Message----- From: sip-admin@ietf.org [mailto:sip-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jiri Kuthan Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:01 AM To: Henry Sinnreich; 'Richard Shockey'; ietf@ietf.org Cc: sip@ietf.org; Scott Petrack; Christian Stredicke That's great idea. We can help with our free SIP server (www.iptel.org/ser/) and hosting the services. -Jiri At 03:46 PM 3/25/2003, Henry Sinnreich wrote: >There are excellent SIP voice conferencing bridges available, such as >from snom AG and eDial. They can be used with various soft clients such >as the Windows Messenger, HotSIP Active Contacts or the Pingtel instant >expressa, or any SIP phone. > >I have taken the liberty of copying here the contacts for snom AG and >eDial, in case this will be pursued. I wonder if snom AG or eDial would >just give the IESG and IAB access to their conference servers? > >Would there be interest to have access to a WorldCom SIP conference >bridge? > >Thanks, Henry > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sip-admin@ietf.org [mailto:sip-admin@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Richard Shockey >> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:04 PM >> To: ietf@ietf.org >> Cc: sip@ietf.org >> Subject: [Sip] Eating our own Dog Food...could the IAB and >> IESG use SIP for conference calls >> >> >> >> Like many of us I was moved my Harald's appeal for >> suggestions for helping >> to cut down costs in the IETF. >> >> I certainly endorse the idea of considering Canada or Mexico >> as possible >> sites for future IETF meetings, but I suspect that the weekly >> teleconferece >> calls that the IAB and IESG have represent a significant line >> item for the >> Secretariat. >> >> In case anyone has not heard, SIP is quite capable of >> handling this type of >> task and there are a variety of commercial as well as open >> source Client >> User Agents as well as commercial products and services that >> could help >> reduce this cost. >> >> I'm sure the SIP working group could help the Secretariat >> identify products >> and services that could make this essential function more >> productive and >> operate at less cost. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology >> Initiatives NeuStar Inc. >> 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 >> Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 >> 815.333.1237 > <mailto:richard@shockey.us> or >> ><mailto:richard.shockey@neustar.biz> > <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > >_______________________________________________ >Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip >This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol >Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use >sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > >_______________________________________________ >Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip >This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol >Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip >Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip