Well, as with any type of incentives system, how you design the meters is critical. You might actually take away points for writing I-Ds, as Harald was suggesting in another thread, or only assign points for docuemtn reviews. But even if this scoring system isn't such a good idea, at least I got some points for posting it ;) Cheers, Aki > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Vach Kompella [mailto:vkompella@timetra.com] > Sent: 20 March, 2003 22:04 > To: Niemi Aki (NMP/Helsinki); ietf@ietf.org > Subject: RE: How to get more reviewers for documents > > > Sorry, but I hate this idea. The whole notion of points is > bad. I was not at > the Plenary so I don't know what exactly went on, but this > smells of the "how > many papers did you write?" numbers game that assistant > professors have to play. > The IETF is political enough as it is, with endless debates > on every topic, > without having to encourage that with points for postings, > points for IDs, > points for attendance, ... This encourages competition of > the worst kind. > > -Vach > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ietf@ietf.org [mailto:owner-ietf@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > > aki.niemi@nokia.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:34 AM > > To: ietf@ietf.org > > Subject: How to get more reviewers for documents > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm going to half bake an idea here on how to get people > more involved. > > > > There are on-line gaming communities on the Internet that > are loosely > > assembled on a game site, there are usually no memberships, and > > people group together to form klans and arrange games against other > > klans or teams. Tough guys (or increasingly nowadays > gals), have high > > frags rates, or high scores or whatever, and are thus more > likely to > > be "invited" to klans and get-togethers. These high scores > don't come > > easy though, but require vast amounts of play time on-line, so an > > occasional visitor will not likely get into the "inner circles". > > > > Now, I think such an online gaming community is a pretty good > > approximation of the IETF. The only thing we don't have is > a scoring system. > > > > So how about creating one for the IETF? A participant could get > > points from reviewing documents, taking part in mailing list > > discussions, attending meetings, writing drafts etc. The > chairs could > > keep a list of the high scorers and publish it for all to see. We > > could document this in a BCP, so that all new attendees would > > immediately know that getting into the inner circles requires vast > > amounts of play time on-line, instead of say being extra friendly > > towards a chair or AD. > > > > I think this sort of thing would accomplish the incentive > aspect Eric > > Rescorla was after at the mike last night, and also make the > > mechanism by which people move up in the hierarchy of the IETF > > explicit and public (also mentioned at the mike last night). > > > > Cheers, > > Aki > > > > > > > > > > >