Tim, Thursday, March 20, 2003, 1:32:23 PM, you wrote: TC> So what were all those "indirect" costs amounting to 600k? a common contracting model for paying for these sorts of service, is to pay for the specific resources that are consumed directly, and then to add a percentage for "overhead", such as offices, administration, telephones, and the other cruft that makes an organization complete. The only interesting question is what percentage is charged. I haven't tracked this sort of thing for awhile, but I believe, the Foretec percentage is below average. Ie, they are charging us less than is usual. d/ -- Dave Crocker <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com> Sunnyvale, CA USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253>, <fax:+1.866.358.5301>