Harald, I have a facility that will fit the purposes of the IETF in Daytona. We have an international airport, and we can probably get a tremendous deal on the ballrooms if we can guarantee the occupancy of the hotel during a slow season... november-february. Local vendors can satisfy food needs efficiently. When you mentioned corporate sponsor the last time we spoke, did you mean that we need someone to cover the costs described below? Scott On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > > > --On 15. mars 2003 18:20 -0800 Marshall Rose > <mrose+mtr.netnews@dbc.mtview.ca.us> wrote: > > > maybe i'm not following, but it looks like > > > > (food + meeting room) / 3 = $350,921 > > > > which is still $113K more than getting the meeting rooms only. > > I don't have the numbers that break these down per meeting, but if I > remember rightly, the proper breakdown is APPROXIMATELY: > > London: 190K meeting rooms + 300K food cost > US meetings: No room cost, 280K food cost > > All aspects of London were expensive, but I don't know how expensive. > > > the one thing that the 2001 numbers don't tell us is what we're spending > > on the terminal rooms (since in 2001 they were donated, hoorah!). seems > > to me that the only thing we should be providing is wifi/10bT and maybe > > a printer or two. anyone who can't bring a laptop to an ietf meeting is > > probably doesn't need connectivity anyway... > > San Francisco will be the first time in a long while we actually have those > numbers, paid out of our own budget. > The BIG number in these discussions is the cost of the access line to the > hotel - the discussions on price of this single item for San Francisco > apparently ranged all the way from 10 KUSD to 80 KUSD, depending (among > other things) on the shortest period of time the local-access company was > willing to sell this service for. > > This time, the SunRays in the terminal room were donated; if they hadn't > been, there wouldn't have been any. The laptop drops are pretty cheap to > provide. > > > i'm sure wednesday night there will be a spirited discussion... > > Oh yes! And I *do* hope there will be some enlightenment, and not just > heat..... it's easy to spend all the time nitpicking over some > 10.000-dollar line item, when the smallest change needed to get the > situation fixed runs into the hundreds of thousands..... > > Harald > > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast world tour 2002-3 live from san francisco http://sleekfreak.ath.cx