due to lightening struck tower, i was unable to be at the atlanta meeting. i really needed to know what happened in a number of sessions in which i have critical interest. the jabber logs were useless, at best "s/he is talking about X now" with no idea of what was said, how it was justified, what the reactions were, ... note that i am a jabber user, run a jabber server, ... so it is not anti-jabber prejudice. it just seemed not to work in this particular context for this particular use. perhaps it kept folk with insufficient email amused during boring times :-). by happenstance, most of the sessions i cared about most were recorded by the mbone team. i downloaded the mpgs, and have found them *very* useful. it is like being there, but without the opportunity to put my foot in my mouth. i am not sure how useful the stuff was in real-time broadcast. but the recordings sure are a real help. randy