Re: IETF Sub-IP area: request for input

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Lars> An example  is PPVPN, which is  chartered to work  on specification of
Lars> requirements, with new protocol work being explicitly out-of-scope. 

Lars> However, some  current PPVPN  IDs (and several  more targetted  at it)
Lars> read more like solution documents

>From the PPVPN charter: 

        This  working  group  is  responsible  for  defining  and
        specifying  a limited  number  of sets  of solutions  for
        supporting provider-provisioned  virtual private networks
        (PPVPNs).

It is  somewhat difficult to define  and specify a  solution without writing
something that "reads like a solution document". 

Lars> for various existing vendor schemes, 

>From the PPVPN charter:

        The working group is  expected to consider at least three
        specific approaches

Various "existing vendor schemes" are then explicitly mentioned. 

Lars> new protocol  work being explicitly out-of-scope  [but PPVPN documents
Lars> are] specifying packet headers and MIBs

In some cases the PPVPN docs do have protocol work in them which needs to be
moved to  another working group.  But  I don't think  this is a case  of the
group  going  beyond its  charter,  it's just  a  matter  of the  individual
contributors getting the time to divide up the documents properly.  In other
cases, the PPVPN docs just specify  how existing protocols are to be used to
achieve various functions.  

I don't think defining a MIB counts as "new protocol work".


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