I am not on the ietf or iesg list. I don't know if this will go through to those lists. While DJB may also have some subscription issue, that is not the fundamental problem. It seems from your comments below, that you think that Randy isn't manually blocking/forwarding messages from subscribed addresses. However, that it not true. The real problem is that Randy sometimes don't post messages from people he doesn't like or on topics he has an interest in, even when they are posted from subscribed addresses. This has happened to me several times. One of the occasions where it happened to me is documented on Bernstein's web page. It has probably happened many more times that haven't made it on DJB's webpage. There seems to be no reason that Randy should set himself up as a moderator, or any reason whatsoever there should be any manual intervention on posting from subscribed addresses. Do you agree? --Dean On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > > > On 27 Nov 2002, D. J. Bernstein wrote: > > > [ post by non-subscriber. with the massive amount of spam, it is easy to > > miss and therefore delete mis-posts. your subscription address is > > 54830374684695-namedroppers@sublist.cr.yp.to, please post from it or > > fix subscription your subscription address! ] > > > > Once again: Bush is (1) subjecting a huge number of legitimate messages > > to manual review and (2) silently discarding many of these legitimate > > messages, apparently at a rate of hundreds per year (not counting mine). > > All you need to do is ONE of the following: > Use the same subcription address and posting address > Ask Randy to put your posting address on the approved posters > list. > > > > > Both #1 and #2 are unacceptable. I want the manual reviews _eliminated_. > > If a message isn't posted immediately, it must be bounced, with a clear > > explanation of how to have it posted without Bush's intervention. > > The ONLY reason there is manual review is because you are not > addhearing to the protocol for posting to the mailing list. > > > > > If the IETF documentation doesn't make sufficiently clear that Bush's > > behavior is unacceptable, that documentation also has to be fixed. > > Send text. > > Olafur > > > > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: <http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/> >