Steve> most Internet users who Steve> can see/access New.net domains do so either (a) via recursives Steve> that rely on USG-root but augment with NN domains, or (b) user Steve> machines that have the NN client plugin (which still relies Steve> on the USG-root). So, New.net does not contribute significantly Steve> to the use of a non-USG root. Of course;-)... It should be patently obvious that most people want to see "The Whole Internet" when they decide they want to see some sites that are not included in the ICANNIC root. So, any rational arrangement to make non-ICANNIC TLDs visible to users will arrange to be additive, as compared to exclusionary. So, the situation is very simple: The ICANNIC ROOT is EXCLUSIONARY, so The other roots must be INCLUSIONARY. So, the ICANNIC root will always have "more" users, no matter what anyone does, short of converting the ICANNIC ROOT to be INCLUSIONARY. Thus this whole discussion thread is just plain silly, as long as the ICANNIC root remains EXCLUSIONARY. But, maybe some good will come from it because it puts the blurred ICANNIC game in plain sight. ICANN stands alone in its EXCLUSIVNESS, while arguing that there must only be one root. All others must die! So, now the real issue becomes totally clear. Enjoy;-)...\Stef