-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Joe" == Joe Abley <jabley@automagic.org> writes: Joe> My quite-possibly-ill-informed impression is that multicast deployment Joe> across the internet as a whole has prematurely switched from a Joe> "pre-production" architecture of tunnels across unicast infrastructure, Joe> to a "production" architecture in which tunnels are deprecated and Joe> native multicast is the order of the day. This is also my impression. There is no multicast available to intelligent end-users - IPv6 is better deployed than multicast, and 6to4 and Teredo will make this even more so in the future. If there is no way for end motivated intelligent users (who control their own firewalls even) to experience the technology, and then play with it, then there will be no experimentation. This means that interesting applications won't just up, meaning there will be no drive demand to deploy multicast. The solution? Rebuild the mbone. ] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBPX44toqHRg3pndX9AQFEEAP/acvC6p//t3mdzWNhrnJuYWU66V+gFlUe zi80IEOj0QHksVa32Hmoyh4KM6ihX0QtVLZhHjYsks+uVkz9UgQglBunsXC+1AFQ Bnczh8Eg3AFUs0KCkMG067ZqAKEAzxfFed4Puj0o8qKVmot4rGtfxYq6Rz6XLiY6 fRE1LJOyS6Y= =idRg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----